Four Scientists on the State of Global Warming and Climate Change Science


| 9/15/2009 2:07:43 PM


Check out this compelling roundtable discussion of four expert climate change scientists: The State of the Climate — and of Climate Science.

It originally appeared in the June 2009 issue of DISCOVER Magazine. (I just "discovered" it ...) The introduction does a great job of describing the crossroads we're at today as science and public opinion meet:

"In the list of world challenges, global warming might be at once the most alarming and the most controversial. According to some predictions, climate change caused by human activity could cause mass extinction in the oceans, redraw the planet’s coastlines, and ravage world food supplies. At the same time, a significant portion of the American public questions whether global warming will really cause any major harm; many still doubt that human-driven warming is happening at all."

Here are a few highlights of the discussion:

"I spend a lot of time studying the ice sheets at the bottom of the planet—how they form and how they collapse. The poles are like the planet’s air conditioner. When things are working well, the poles keep the planet nice and cool and we don’t think about it. When things stop working, the poles can start to melt and there’s a puddle on the floor. Today both poles are getting warmer; in Greenland and Antarctica you can see the surface of the ice dropping, and you can see there’s less mass when you measure the ice from space. The process has been ongoing, but it looks like it’s happening faster than it was. We know the ice sheets have come and gone in the past. Why is this any different? One of the most compelling reasons is that in the past the ice sheets from the two poles didn’t move together—one would lead and the other would follow. This time, both the north and south are spewing ice into the global ocean, accelerating at the same time." 



— Robin E. Bell, a senior research scientist at Columbia University’s Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory 

Fran Tracy
11/26/2009 5:28:45 PM

The emails tell the story of how the data has been manipulated. GLOBAL WARMING IS A HOAX TO MAKE A FEW PEOPLE RICH ie AL GORE WHO HAS INCREASED HIS WEALTH BY $99 MLLION DOLLARS SINCE 2000. People can not affect the climate. TO THE PERSON THAT THINKS SOCIALISM IS A GOOD THING, STUDY HOW BRADFORD THE GOVERNOR OF THE PLYMOUTH COLONY SAID PEOPLE WERE NOT WORKING WHEN IT WAS OPERATED AS A COMMUNE. HE GAVE EACH PERSON A SEPARATE PLOT OF LAND TO WORK AND THAT WAS WHEN FREE ENTERPRISE STARTED AND THE COLONIES BECAME SUCCESSFUL AND WERE ABLE TO PAY THE INVESTERS THAT STARTED THEM. SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK AND THE HEALTH PLAN PROPOSED IS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE AND WILL NOT WORK. KEEP FREE ENTERPRISE AND FIND A WAY TO GET MORE PEOPLE INSURED THROUGH THE SYSTEM WE HAVE. FRAN


ccm989
11/24/2009 7:09:32 AM

Its sad to read how many denials there are about Global Warming. I think the main reason people keep denying the existence of Global Warming is that they don't want to give up their luxury SUVs, they don't want to stop eating beef and they don't want to be responsible for their children's future. Pretty sad. If you care about this planet at all, then get off your fat butt and start cutting down on your own waste, be responsible for your own excess use of gas and beef, recycle everything and teach your children that the world is not a garbage can. If we don't stop Global Warming now, our children have no future. And we'll have no one to blame except the lazy fat deniers who refused to give up their Hummers.


Linda Pierucki
11/23/2009 12:23:33 PM

Perhaps when people get to see the huge ftp files of hacked emails and documents that surfaced this week from Great Britain, they will clearly see that much of the data has been massaged and doctored to support global warming where there is none. The Universities and 'scientists' involved have admitted these are their actual files. The documents make it quite clear that their climate models are faulty and that they've been forced to cover up the cooling trend over the last ten years. They also show who has been paying for this so-called science and, thus, who will benefit from it. Hint: it isnt you or me! A report is being prepared that compiles the files in a readable document and will be distributed to legislators, who will then have to either back off these insane claims or come right out and say the global warming scam/Cap & Trade is actually a wealth-redistribution scheme and designed to enrich big business at the expense of the American citizens.It has nothing to do with any actual human-caused activities. In front of this report, here come the same 'scientists' with their pants around their knees doing damage control! Media has, as usual, assigned their most inane talking heads to make a small news report on this without having the vaguest idea what it is all about. So, wait until you see the full report before deciding this is the real deal.




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