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Could a windmill’s ability to “derive maximum benefit out of the site-specific gift nature is providing — wind and open space,” in the words of aesthetician Yuriko Saito, help Americans bridge the divide between pristine landscapes and sustainable ones? Could windmills help Americans subscribe to the “higher order of beauty” that environmental educator David Orr defines as something that “causes no ugliness somewhere else or at some later time”? Could acceptance of wind farms be our generation’s way of avowing our love for the next?

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I believe so. Or want to.

— Adapted from a longer article of the same name, which originally appeared in Orion Magazine — a publication that combines creative ideas and practical solutions to reconnect human culture with the natural world. For more information on Orion, call (888) 909-6568 or visit www.orionmagazine.org.

Charles Komanoff is director of Koma­noff Energy Associ­ates. He has written extensively about energy, economics and the environment, as well as pedestrian and bicyclist rights in New York City. His Web site is www.komanoff.net.

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  • Ken 1/16/2008 1:00:18 PM

    In response to Virginia's comments on wind turbines in the Dec
    07/Jan 08 issue, page 13: 1. I would rather see non-polluting
    windmills than traditional pollution belching generating plants. 2.
    If built on farm land, all but a small area surrounding the tower
    can still be farmed. This can provide additional income for the
    farmer. 3. With the new larger wind turbines, they spin much slower
    and birds can avoid the blades and are not "instantly butchered".
    Also with the use of tubular towers shown vice the older lattice
    towers, the birds are not attracted to rest on the towers.

  • Greg 1/12/2008 2:59:57 AM

    Living in the metropolitan Twin Cities, I normally wouldn't see a
    wind generator farm but a few years ago on a trip to Colorado, I
    noticed one just west of 35W in Iowa. I was entranced by them.
    Fortunately, I wasn't driving. Graceful and elegant with the slowly
    turning blades, I watched them until we were out of sight of them.
    Slighty awed also because of their size. I really was fascinated by
    the sight of them. Obviously, I don't get out much. I do have
    concerns about where a large commercial farm is. While simple and
    elegant in design, they certainly don't lend much to a rural vista.
    I also worry about the disruption of flight patterns and injury or
    death to birds. That being said, at least wind power is clean so
    poisons are not spewed into the air affecting both mammal(us) and
    fowl. All in all, we need power. There are trade-offs, limitations,
    unacceptable options and creative new ideas. Windpower is one
    option. It may still be an option ten years from now generated in a
    totally different way with new technology. We must just keep
    working.

  • Jim 1/6/2008 10:41:03 PM

    I would rather have wind generators in the scenery than the cooling
    tower of an atomic power plant. or the smoke stacks of oil powered
    generators. As for power lines how do you expect to get the end
    product, electricity, to the consumer? If you think underground,
    ever hear about earthquakes? We are currently in a transition from
    dependence on one product for all our energy needs to a future
    where we should not let any one or two resourses be the sourse of
    all our energy needs.

  • Dennis 1/3/2008 4:08:43 PM

    I just finished a trip through the panhandle of Texas (Amarillo,
    Lubbock) and there are many windmill farms out there. The farmers
    pass under neith them. What is the problem? I think there should be
    more and disconnect the coal fired plants.

  • Alex 12/31/2007 12:38:37 PM

    Ugly? I would think that windmills looks a whole lot nicer than a
    big black smokestack or dark skys. In fact, windmills will cut down
    on polution thus saving the grand vistas and beautiful scenery

  • Scott 12/31/2007 9:40:15 AM

    US Fish and Wildlife Service: Bird Mortality Fact Sheet. See link
    http://www.fws.gov/birds/mortality-fact-sheet.pdf Cats kill and
    est. 39 million birds each year. Building collisions 97 million to
    976 million each year. Radio towers kill and est. 4 to 5 million
    each year. Interestingly, during inclimit weather migratory bids
    will circle the towers lighting colliding into the guywires. At the
    time of the research, 2002, wind turbines killed and est 33,000
    birds each year.

  • Gary 12/29/2007 8:53:18 PM

    One huge 382 foot high wind mill nicked named 'the Zepher' was
    recently installed at a ski resort with sight of my home. I find my
    self looking daily to see if it is turning and it ususally is. I do
    not see it as ungly at all. I want one in my own back yard! i am
    tired of hight electric bills. I am weary of imported oil at $3.25
    per gallon and rising. I find myself increasingly thinking green
    and would actually like a 'energy free' home, meaning no energy
    bills! And If I could find a reasonably energy alternative to
    gasoline, I would invest it! And it IS possible! Many homes here
    already are! And as oil keeps goping up, those who dare will coe up
    with alternatives. Think positive! I wish to be one of these doers
    and hate negative thinking except for the catalyst it is for
    POSITIVE thinking. If we all do our part, maybe, just maybe, we can
    make a difference. I like that idea! Let's go for it!

  • Doug 12/29/2007 2:57:09 PM

    I don't like the looks of wind farms as much a the next person but
    we the next generation(s) are going to need all the energy they can
    get. Here's a video by Prof. Richard Smalley illistrating the HUGH
    challenge facing the first half of the 21st century to meet its
    energy needs:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4626573768558163231 Even
    with conservation in fist world nations, as third world nations
    develope their energy needs increase. Natural gas in North America
    has peaked, world oil production may be peaking now:
    http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20060710/default_full_mac.htm
    But we have hundreds of years of coal to burn, right? No. 1991 we
    had 500 years (with the caveat) at the then current rate of use.
    The use of coal has been growing at an exponential rate of 2.86%
    per year. At that annualized rate the US supply of coal could be
    used up in 70 years such is the power of expnential growth. Will we
    stay at 3% annualize growth rate in the use of coal? Not if plug-in
    hybrids and electric cars go into the marketplace. That rate will
    go much higher. See the next two links explaining exponential
    growth: http://www.webpotential.com/ambiente/exponential_growth.htm
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5051121482067161853
    Ethanol from corn? To replace 30% of the gasoline used in the US
    with ethanol would take as much water as flows over Niagra Falls
    each year, according to Toyota's advanced fuels manager:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPB6uHm2p_Q Will wind farms make up
    the difference in the growing demand for energy, espically as
    fossil fuels deplete? They won't even come close. If someone has a
    better solution, I and the late Prof. Smalley would like to know
    what that is. BTW I am an independent oil producer.

  • handstoworkfarm 12/28/2007 6:21:16 PM

    The warning cry regarding our environmental abuses and the over-use
    of natural resources went out long ago. Theodore Roosevelt saw it
    all coming. At the turn of the 20th century, the red flag was
    already up! How is it possible that we can justify the long
    commutes to work, the "weekending" at second homes, the glut of
    merchandise purchased and thrown into landfills and still say with
    conviction that wind turbines are an eye-sore! HELLLLOOOOOOO!! For
    right now, it's a good solution to an accelerated problem. If the
    nay sayers do not like this answer to our planetary problems, can
    they please offer another viable solution?

  • Charles 12/25/2007 10:57:40 AM

    It never ceases to amaze me how well people like the above critics
    of wind turbines can convince themselves of ideas based in
    falsehoods and bad attitudes about something as pure and
    incontrovertible as the use of wind energy as a significant part of
    a solution to our energy addiction. I have one suggestion for them:
    Open your eyes, your mind, and get some therapy.

  • Robert 12/25/2007 6:16:22 AM

    Ref: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly. This writer obviously likes
    feeding the corporate pig (oil). I personally cannot see any reason
    for not using the land under the mills and lastly I guess that
    birds do not fly close to the house in Taylors, South Carolina. The
    whole situation looks VERY GREEN to me. Mother Earth keep up the
    good work. Robert P. McFarland Lincoln University, Pennsylvania

  • Al 12/23/2007 1:30:41 PM

    Just as stars are light in a dark place, so wind turbines are a
    glimmer of hope on a fading horizon. That's my 2-cents' worth!

  • lynn 12/23/2007 9:47:59 AM

    When I hear people decrying the ugliness and destruction of
    wildlife and habitats that they claim will inevitably occur when
    wind power is used, I wonder where these people were when wildlife
    and habitats were destroyed building coal-burning plants, or
    draining and filling in wetlands to build shopping malls or cheap
    housing for as high a profit as possible for the developers. One of
    our neighbors has been using wind power on his farm for many years.
    He bought the windmill himself and assembled it and keeps it
    running year after year. He took a big hit financially just to
    install it and probably is much less "wealthy" as a result, but as
    he will tell you, wealth is not necessarily measured in dollars and
    cents: sometimes it is the peace of mind and satisfaction in
    knowing you have done the right thing to keep from adding to the
    destruction of environment using fossil fuels. Meanwhile, his
    little wind turbine hums along, making hardly any background noise,
    while his sheep graze around it and the birds and bats just avoid
    it when it is running. When I see it, I smile, knowing his family
    is sustained comfortably, but not extravagantly, by the power
    generated, and have learned to adjust to the times when the wind is
    calm. Two years ago my husband and I saw a wind turbine array in
    Nova Scotia on a blustery day. Yes, the turbines made some noise,
    but no greater than the wind itself buffeting the landscape, and
    once again, the birds-from large seabirds to much smaller land and
    shore bird- were navigating around the structure without any
    difficulty, and there was no pile of animal carnage around the
    turbines. Perhaps some people find the possibility of these large
    structures aesthetically displeasing, but to me the image of a coal
    or nuclear plant to generate electricity is deeply troubling on
    many levels, and the likely inevitability of an environment that is
    being heated to a temperature that is making most plant and animal
    life as

  • Daniel 12/22/2007 2:48:03 PM

    I think that wind turbines are amoung Man's most beautiful
    creations, even though I have never actually seen a wind farm.
    Recently it was reported that one is being planned for the
    shoreline of the Atlantic Ocean not that far north of Palm Beach
    County, where I live. I was excited to hear the news, and look
    forward to the opportunity to some day see it. I will be taking my
    camera along with me to be sure. Yet asthetics aside I must admit
    that I have reservations about wind farms. And I find the
    comparison of wind turbines to power lines an interesting one,
    because how do you get the power from the wind farm to the user
    without power lines? In my own utopian vision of the perfect world,
    we have all learned to live on far less power, and have found ways
    to generate it on our own property. The ideal is to be disconnected
    from the grid, not to be connected to a greener grid.

  • Marv 12/19/2007 10:12:40 AM

    I find wind turbines visually pleasing. It calls too mind kintetic
    art where movement is part of what you see. Yes I can appreciate
    that wind turbines lower our carbon foot print but that is not my
    deciding factor on the visiual impact. I also recoginize that we
    continue to lose more of the natural landscape to urban sprawl than
    will ever be effected by wind turbines.

  • Kathleen 12/18/2007 6:57:19 AM

    Whether or not one agrees with the wind farms or not, I think most
    of us would agree, that the American life style has to change. We
    are the worlds' leading consumers. I think the debates are useful,
    as they serve to highlight one of our most important freedoms. That
    of speech and of course thought. Now, we also must add to this the
    freedom to choose, and whether or not we're going to be
    "responsible" consumers... or not. Instead of arguing with each
    other, we should work together, to find the least harmful, most
    beneficial solution to a world problem. Let us be the leaders of
    tomorrow, and let us lead by example.

  • mhyduchak 12/16/2007 4:15:08 PM

    I live in northeastern pa where we have two wind farms located high
    on the western edge of the pocono mountains. I find it ironic that
    this area which was home to the anthrcite coal fields is now home
    to wind farms. The coal was used to fuel the power plants in the
    northeast and the wind farms are doing the same with no pollution.
    At first there was opposition but after they were up and running no
    one complained. It does matter where they are located. I believe
    they should be part of a national plan to provide power for our
    future. The best benefit of the windmills is that my children can
    actually see what the future source of electricity will be.

  • adoug 12/11/2007 7:30:58 PM

    Even though wind are not the only solution to the energy crisis,
    the ones who dont want them either ar e too pig headed or have
    screwed enough people out of their money that the coul care less
    about anything but themselves and its time to take the money from
    the crooked rich and re-distribute it

  • W. 12/11/2007 5:09:44 PM

    To Whom it may concern: During May of this year, my wife and I had
    the honor and privilege to attend the wedding of a former exchange
    student, in Hamburg, Germany. We saw many wind generators, both
    operating and non-operating. Yes, it would have been nice too see
    the landscape without them. However, it was much nicer to breath
    the air, be able to see things clearer, and our cloths stayed much
    cleaner, than mine did when I was there, in the U.S. Army during
    1965-66. As for complaints about the noise of the generators. it is
    certainly less offensive to me than traffic noise, even when I was
    standing on the base of one near Herten. People must choose their
    poison: either a little noise, a slight obstruction to their view,
    or danger of radiation leaks, steam clouds being released, smoke
    stacks (taller that any wind generator I have seen) belching
    literally tons of black smoke, carbon-dioxide, sulfur-dioxide,and
    mercury vapors, and I do not know what other toxins. As for me and
    my wife, we will take the wind generators,if they are sufficiently
    cost effective. At least we will until photo- vol tic equipment
    becomes far more efficient.

  • Roger Dobronyi 12/8/2007 3:05:48 PM

    I've been reading these comments and it is really interesting at
    how short- sighted people are. First they are talking as if they
    merely have a choice such as, should I wear the red hat or the
    blue? Folks, think- no oil! Because we are running out! The prices
    will climb until only the rich can afford it. Some folks think
    energy production has to be ALL solar or ALL wind or ALL wave
    action, and they badmouth any other system. How stupid can you get?
    All this exclusivity is only succeeeding in slowing down any
    movement in any direction as this dissention confuses the
    marketplace. We need energy- producing systems that do not use
    non-renewable resources and do not produce carbon dioxide as a
    by-product. We should plan on utilizing all systems that do not
    burn any fuel and cause CO2 production. We need to start getting
    used to life being a little different. I have heard some people's
    feeble excuse for not using the new fluorescent bulbs as they are
    funny looking! Give me a break! They are a light producing device
    that saves you 75% of the power you would spend on a regular bulb
    and they save approximately $30. over their lifetime for God's
    sake. Electric cars that are powered from wind-solar-wave
    electricity generation, that are only allowed to be manufactured in
    this country, will go a long way towards freeing us from foreign
    oil, reducing the CO2 emissions and putting America back to work!
    That's a win-win-win proposition! Stop the naysaying and let's get
    to work!

  • david 12/8/2007 12:32:15 AM

    I think that a working windmill is simply a thing of beauty.I live
    in southern Alberta where there is quite a few wind farms including
    the largest one in Canada.The land under the windmills is used as
    it has been for several generations,cattle ranching.

  • Crystal 12/7/2007 2:42:50 PM

    I Live in TEXAS.Where we can sale a natural resource like WIND. Our
    economy was hurt in the late 80's due to the oil! Ihave recentaily
    just finished working on my company's 4th wind tourbine project.I
    dont understand @ the uneducated people in this world, that has an
    oppinion that dont know what there talking about! They need to
    visit a windmill sight and then talk there trash.They create alot
    of jobs,They are a natural resource,from there natural force, you
    can take one 1.5 tourbine,that puts out 2500 mw hrs. per year.if
    you have 27 of these tourbines it will save 160.000 barrels of oil
    or 40.000 tons of coal per year we could keep underground. Spinning
    at 15 revolutions every 4 seconds.And provide 24.000 Houses with
    electricity per year.Not to mention how distructive fossil fuels
    are to our enviroment.and what about our ozone layer? We come up
    with better ways to live longer some people need to accept changes
    because it changes around us every day.it's time to wake up for our
    children of the future! Please study the good verses the bad before
    you have an oppinion! From someone who has in Texas.Thank you for
    reading my comment.

  • P. 12/7/2007 1:09:27 PM

    Thanks to Jarred for asking the question “What is the carbon
    footprint of a wind turbine?” Talk about corporate “Greenwashing”
    The wind industry is guilty of perpetrating a huge scam on the
    public. The actual land usage footprint of each turbine or a wind
    factory consisting of hundreds of turbines is HUGE for the small
    amount of electricity it actually adds to, or should I say
    displaces from, the grid. They waste too much precious space. We
    need to conserve our open spaces. The wind industry is steam
    rolling over communities before people even have time to evaluate
    the full impact. I hope the public wakes up before we destroy the
    beauty of this country. (Visual pollution is not regarded as an
    important concern). Anti-wind proponents NEED to be hysterical.
    They are fighting a well-funded industry and a rush to a feel-good
    solution that will make very little impact on our energy problems
    or on climate change. A TOTAL WASTE. A SCAM

  • Tom 12/6/2007 10:30:44 PM

    I have been working in the wind industry for 4 years, and I found
    it to be sad what some people were writing in and saying. If you
    don't know what your talking about you should go to the different
    Companies like Vestas, GE,or Siemans and on these companies web
    site they will provide the narrow minded with GOOD information. In
    my 4 years I've never saw a meltdown or a coal pile that burned out
    of control or strychnine wash into the streams and cause massive
    fish and wild life kills, But I have to admit that I have saw ONE
    bat dead from chasing a bug into the path of a blade ; no other
    fatalities. The gearboxes hold 95 gallons of oil and there is a
    catch tray that will prevent a oil spill. The new turbine produce
    1.5 to 2.5 megawatts which is 1500 watts to 2500 watts. The 1.5's
    will produce enough power for about 350 to 400 homes depending on
    the time of year. They need 15 mph winds to start making power and
    after that the wind can die down to 6 mph and still put out full
    power. They pitch there blades to kept the RPM's it needs to stay
    at full power. The turbine turns into the wind when the wind
    changes direction. These are not the old dumb wind mills of the
    past. They have come along way. I say to those who don't want them
    in their back yards, TURN OFF ALL YOUR ELECTRICITY and see how long
    that lasts. We have to do something now!!! We can't wait another 30
    years!!!!! By the way, which is how long some of the wind turbines
    have been running in Palm Springs, Ca., and believe it or not they
    produce power. Did you know that Denmark gets 85% of its power from
    wind. I read that in Popular Science. You wouldn't want a Coal
    plant or a Nuke plant right next to your house would you? So why be
    a hater of the wind turbines.We should all support them!!!!

  • Brad 12/5/2007 7:29:27 PM

    NIMBY's = Not in My Back Yard. Neighbors to windfarms scream and
    yell because of jealouly, pure and simple. They usually are of the
    poorer economic end of the spectrum, hence living in an area with
    the resemblence of a wind tunnel. They see the farmers hosting the
    sites making money, they see the developers risking millions to put
    in a green renewable project to make money while protecting the
    earth, and when they find out they can't Extort money out of what
    they view as the "Big Corporations" wallah, jealously, annoyance
    and the creation of NIMBY's. I am sure every NIMBY would love to
    see the planet a green clean place, yet when it comes to a small
    sacrifice to protect the environment, i.e. installing pollution
    free windmills, poof their morals are gone. Instead, they delve
    into a game of Fear Mongering, Lies, Slanted truths, statistics
    taken out of context, and try their darndest to stop a project. Now
    if they were to get a check, and I have seen this first had, best
    supporters of the world, they want the project to go in so they can
    get $$. Funny how that works. It is a pure and simple fact that
    Wind Energy is supported at EVERY level of government, supported BY
    THE PUBLIC at levels in excess of 80%, yet the silent majority of
    SUPPORTERS are always drowned out by the very vocal MINORITY. To
    the NIMBY's of the world, I say, sit down and be quiet. Just as you
    exercise your right for free speech, exercise your right to move to
    a NON-Windy area. In CA aswell as other states, something close to
    98% of the state is not developable for wind, I am sure you can
    find a home that won't have a view of what you consider an ugly
    (what I consider a beautiful masterpiece of engineering, technology
    and man-kinds quest to protect the earth) wind turbine. SUPPORT
    WIND!

  • J 12/4/2007 9:29:51 PM

    As someone who has a 'wind farm' in my area, not only is it an
    eye-sore, but it has torn up the paved county road to my community.
    I live just south of the wind farm at Beaumont, Ks. I would like to
    know what the carbon footprint is of just one of those wind
    turbines (there are a hundred of them)? I know it took 5 (five)
    overweight/overlength tracker-trailers to bring in just ONE of the
    wind turbines and that doesn't count: cement trucks, heavy earth
    moving equipment, rebar by the semi-truck load, gravel trucks. Now
    they want to haul in a hundred more! And to top everything off, the
    power IS NOT for Kansas, it is for Springfield and Joplin,
    Missouri.

  • jeff 12/3/2007 11:31:53 AM

    Renewable wind energy is not only self sustaining but it is a
    majestic site to see these windmills slowly turning on the
    mountaintop. I have bee around them in california (altamont pass)
    and the allegheny ridge in west central pennsylvania and I love
    them . There has been opposition to these in pennsylvania by many
    folks, including the Sierra Club which particularly bothers me. The
    main opposition seems to be the damage to forest areas where these
    are placed. I disagree heartedly because, at least here in the
    pennsylvania area we have way more damage to forests and nature
    lands by ATV riders than any other method. They not only destroy
    nature land but also seem to have the opinion that they can ride on
    and destroy private land also. They do so using the valuable oil
    products that we are fighting for in the Middle East. We should be
    working to rationing fuel for these ATV's to help reduce our oil
    dependency along with expanding out renewable windmaill options.

  • sue 12/2/2007 10:52:19 AM

    I live in northwest Oklahoma where the wind industry is moving in
    and amassing large blocks of pristine prairie for the wind farms. I
    have researched the wind industry very thoughly. Here is the low
    down. This industry is heavily subsidized by the tax payers and the
    companies recieve huge tax breaks, so this is all about profit. We
    are losing millions of acres of precious land in America to
    mega-mulit national corporations. This industry is not federally
    regulated and most states have no regulations. Here is Oklahoma
    this unregluated industry is going to destroy precious wildlife
    habitat. It is the death knell for the Lesser Prairie Chicken since
    all planned farms are in their small but vitally important habitat.
    The shame and the sham is there is pitifully small amounts of
    energy supplied by these turbines and massive amounts of
    distruction of our beautiful country. These corportation have done
    an outstanding job of pulling the wool over our eyes. They have
    paved the way with millions of dollars placed in the right places
    to make them look environmentally friendly. They have spent
    millions of dollars publicizeing themselves. We are looking a
    wholesale distruction of millions of acres purely for the profit of
    these mainly forieng corporatons Sue Selman

  • wallymensing 12/2/2007 8:05:03 AM

    Don't do it! Go solar! I grew up with big powerlines in my back
    yard, yes they are ugly. Wind turbine are only slightly better
    looking. If we just put solar panels on our roofs we wouldn't need
    either one of them. The new technology can now be built into the
    building and roofing material making it almost invisible to the
    eye. I'd much prefer to see rolling hills without either power
    lines or wind turbines. Besides if you have a big wind farm how
    does it get to the distribution grid??? through the power lines! So
    how much sense does that make?

  • moryen 12/1/2007 11:13:19 AM

    I live in Southern California. Believe me, I have thought long and
    hard about alternative energy. Solar energy is OK, but in the
    absence of putting panels on roofs, which isn't always possible or
    feasable, then what? About seventy miles north of here is a
    windmill farm. When it was put in, people were having fits over it.
    They said it would kill birds, it would disturb wildlife, and it
    would be an eyesore. Let me tell you something, for those of you
    who have never seen a wind farm. Every time I have to go north, I
    try to pass by that area, so I can see those rows and rows of
    windmills, generating electricity without polluting anyting. I see
    goats grazing underneath them sometimes, and once even a deer. I am
    particularaly amused by the sight of BIRD NESTS on the tops of the
    supports for the windmills. So, far from killing hundreds of birds,
    there are now many more nesting sites for birds, and the local
    fauna don't seem to be disturbed in the slightest. So that (snaps
    fingers) for people who think they know what they're talking about.
    Come out here to Los Angeles, and I'll show you a thing or three
    you won't expect!

  • Rick 11/30/2007 10:15:19 PM

    I live in Ohio, look at all the smoke stacks spitting out who knows
    what into the air. Coal has got to go, I wonder if some of these
    people that hate windmills have ever seen a strip mine or seen the
    hiil top blown off to get at the coal. Wind and solar will save the
    planet and if we're lucky us too, if it's not to late. When I can
    afford it I will have my own wind turbine and if everybody could do
    the same, we could get rid of the smoke stacks one at a time...

  • tim 11/28/2007 9:04:51 PM

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3893254167410595527 Here
    is another alternative of solar and wind power that you don't hear
    much of!! The ground under it is still usable just like the ground
    under standard wind turbines contrary to what some believe

  • Tim 11/28/2007 9:03:04 PM

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3893254167410595527 Here
    is another alternative of solar and wind power that you don't hear
    much of!! The ground under it is still usable just like the ground
    under standard wind turbines contrary to what some believe

  • Ted 11/27/2007 3:52:22 PM

    I can equate watching a wind turbine on a hillside to watching a
    sailboat on the lake off my back porch. Our property adjoins the
    Maple Ridge Wind Project in upstate NY in the poorest county. I was
    raised in New York City a few blocks from the elevated trains. So I
    see the landscape with wind turbines as a thing of beauty and I can
    compare the noise to wind blowing through the pine trees.I also see
    the local farmers who were barely making ends meet pocketing $6000
    per turbine situated on their property. The project has also
    resulted in tax payments to the local town, county and school. I
    have worked in a coal fired power plant and a Nuclear Power Plant.
    Wind energy provides the best view. The bottom line is I do not
    want to live with out electricity.

  • Kari 11/27/2007 12:23:45 PM

    Thank you, thank you to all of the above writers who have pointed
    out the hype, misinformation and negative aspects of wind
    factories. The manic march to blanket the world with wind factories
    is frightening. I am baffled by the stance of some of the best
    known environmental groups when it comes to industrial wind
    development. Does it have anything to do with where some of their
    big donations are coming from?

  • Kari 11/27/2007 12:22:24 PM

    Thank you, thank you to all of the above writers who have pointed
    out the hype, misinformation and negative aspects of wind
    factories. The manic march to blanket the world with wind factories
    is frightening. I am baffled by the stance of some of the best
    known environmental groups when it comes to industrial wind
    development. Does it have anything to do with where some of their
    big donations are coming from?

  • Lucile 11/26/2007 8:03:48 AM

    The bat mortality from industrial scale wind turbines located on
    eastern ridges is an environmental crises occurring behind closed
    doors. Once the industry recognized the severity of the bat kills,
    it closed its facilities to further research, thus preventing the
    discovery of possible solutions. At present no proven solutions
    exist. Bats are the primary predators of night flying insects. By
    keeping insect populations in control, they make it possible to
    farm without pesticides, protect forests, and increase our
    enjoyment nature. These small mammals produce only one to three
    pups per year and so are especially vulnerable to the high
    mortality. The continued existence of migrating bats is threatened
    by the proliferation of wind turbines. Merlin Tuttle, the head of
    Bat Conservation International, has said, "If the approximately 900
    turbines currently proposed for wooded ridge tops within a 70-mile
    radius of our study sites in Pennsylvania and West Virginia are
    built, those turbines alone could kill more than 50,000 bats a
    year, Given bats' low reproductive rates, kills of such magnitude
    cold put entire species at risk." The life span of these turbines
    is 20 years so the mortality in this relatively small area could be
    a million bats. While descrecrating the beauty of our last large
    stretches of wildlands is immeasurably sad, killing off entire
    species goes to the very heart of why wind turbine development on
    eastern ridges is immoral.

  • John 11/26/2007 12:46:51 AM

    Poor Mr. Carnes. He thinks that industrial wind turbines are
    beautiful and that, "no matter what we do there must be some
    sacrifices." He is entitled to his opinion on beauty but if people
    are going to make sacrifices in the name of cleaner energy, they
    should make them in support of a technology that actually works.
    Industrial wind turbines in the eastern US drain away our tax
    dollars, increase utility rates and have significant negative
    impacts on wildlife and the environment, all while producing
    negligible amounts of low-quality electric power and having little
    or no impact on climate change. Industrial wind is a sham and a
    delusion. Perhaps its most dangerous feature is that it lulls a
    gullible public into the false sense that, because we are erecting
    wind turbines, something useful is being done to combat climate
    change.

  • stibob 11/25/2007 7:35:34 PM

    Reference: Virginia Robin of Taylors, South Carolina in her letter
    in the Dec 2007 MEN disliked commercial wind plants. She talked
    about butchering birdsDid she never have a pretty pin wheel as a
    child and discover the beauty of wind? The US Air force and
    commercial organizations have studied bird and how they move freely
    through helicopter rotar blades in motion and wind turbine blades
    with no damageor death. It is true that bats will go for a moving
    object and can be killed. MEN readers should put up more bat homes.
    No matter what we do there must be some sacrifices. To me the wind
    plants are a thing of beauty. I use to live at Mojave, California
    where the big wind plants cover the lanndscape. Cheers, Robert
    Carnes, Asheboro, NC

  • Vincent 11/25/2007 5:18:38 PM

    I think windmills are wonderful! Especially here in the eastern
    mountains of the U.S., where thousands are about to be built along
    the ridgetops. Yes, they are going to be great! Well, except for
    the fact that they will produce zero dispatchable capacity, will
    require the construction and running of more fossil-fuel plants to
    provide the necessary back-up when the winds blow either too slow
    or too fast (and wouldn't you know it, the times when the wind
    blows the least just happen to correspond to the times when we need
    electricity the most - darn!), require huge amounts of concrete,
    metals and composites (all manufactured through very
    environmentally unfriendly processes), require hundreds of miles of
    additional transmission lines and interconnects all over the
    countryside, cause the clearcutting of thousands of acres of
    ridgetop forests, building of roads, erosion and destruction of
    habitat and streams, consume billions of taxpayer subsidies and pit
    neighbor against neighbor in constant strife and lawsuits. Oh, and
    let's not forget how our once-beautiful, wild and peaceful
    mountains will soon be transformed into an industrial hell, with
    thousands of huge, thrashing windmills visible as far as the eye
    can see atop the highest ridges,stobe lights flashing, blade noise
    echoing through the hills and valleys and the destruction of
    millions of birds and bats, including many hawks, eagles and
    migratory songbirds. Oh, and let's not forget that they will
    provide great cover for big energy and its supporters to present a
    greenwashed facade by investing in them and blanketing the media
    with fraudulent ads. Yes, the perfect energy source! Thank you,
    Sierra Club, National Audubon Society and your friends at the AWEA
    and NREL. You have done a great service to the Country!

  • tom 11/25/2007 1:34:44 PM

    Go to any area where the developers reported the locals being in
    favor of the industrial turbines. Go there three years after they
    are installed and all of the people who have benefited are long
    gone, along with any desire to maintain these huge industrial
    machines. Listen to the noise the generators make above what used
    to exist. Ask the local community again if they are in favor of the
    industrial generators. Act surprised if they are not. By the way,
    the supposed low level of noise at 45 dBA is UNFIT FOR HUMAN
    HABITATION according to the world health organization. At 64, OSH
    recommends hearing protection if constant occupation is required.
    Does this sound noisy to you? I have not even mentioned the lack of
    USABLE power since they generate just when the power is excess, the
    200 mph tip speed that necessitates the developers in Searsburg
    turning them OFF during PR tours. Or the fact that they would be
    unfeasible if not for huge subsidies, or that the developers
    inevitably sells after installation, or that there is no recourse
    if they do not perform as advertised. Industrial turbine generators
    are not the answer.

  • David 11/25/2007 12:34:56 PM

    Of course what wind energy has behind it is well heeled
    mega-corporations. These are the same corporations who argued for
    years that global warming did not exist. Sounds familiar? Like the
    tobacco companies running nicotine addiction programs? Big business
    has not been slow to turn a profit on wind energy devices, with
    $B's from Congress to support these otherwise uneconomic systems.
    So what could those $B's have been spent on instead? Reducing
    dependency on oil and coal? This is the huge tradegy that is
    unfolding in our life times. The failure to fund real research into
    sustainable alternative systems and then deployment of those said
    systems. If I were the power company executives I'd want to ensure
    that wind power was top funded alternative too - because its
    completely non-threatening to the current status-quo. Congress
    should immediately cancel all funding subsidy to wind projects and
    power generation - and then we'd truly see the real value exposed
    as corporations dump these assets enmass. New startups can then be
    funded who truly offer real sustainable power generation.

  • George 11/25/2007 10:02:46 AM

    The above weblink provided by Rosa Goldman accesses a beautifully
    written and hard-hitting response to Komanoff's "spin" in support
    of the ENRONesque wind industry. Kudos to its author. Komanoff
    continues to ignore the evidence which refutes his repeated claim
    that the Madison wind turbines operate with an annual capacity
    factor of 28%. The Madison, NY wind energy facility is actually
    operating at under 20% capacity factor (the combined average for
    2005 and 2006, according to the US DOE's Energy Information
    Administration 906/920 database - which posts on the web
    spreadsheets containing the monthly generation reported by the
    turbines' owner). Komanoff choses to ignore this fact - which
    indicates the Madison wind turbines are poorly sited. The national
    average capacity factor of recently installed wind plants is now
    about 30%, and a few "wind farms" are achieving a capacity factor
    of 40% or even higher (meaning they produce a lot more electricity
    in a year per MW of installed capacity than Madison's turbines).
    However, these facilities are located in the Mid-West - where the
    wind resources are far superior to those found in New England or
    elsewhere in the eastern US. None of the "wind farms" so far
    installed in the eastern US have operated with an average annual
    capacity factor of more than 32% - and nearly all are under 28%.
    Komanoff's providing obviously false information about the
    operational effectiveness of the wind turbines at the Madison "wind
    farm" doesn't reflect well upon his work as an Energy Consultant.
    It appears he doesn't let facts get in the way of a good argument.

  • MaryAnn 11/25/2007 9:59:49 AM

    I'm pretty sure we are going to have to make some inconceivably big
    adjustments in the way we live if humanity, to say nothing of the
    flora and fauna, are going to get through the constantly arriving
    future without extremely onerous costs. It's impossible to think we
    are going to find one solution to our need for energy. We will find
    and try many methods, and that is exactly what we should do. Of
    course, the fastest and least difficult way to have the energy we
    think we need is to conserve, conserve, conserve. Use less of
    everything. One of the things that makes it so obvious that we use
    and waste so much is the growth of the storage rental industry! We
    just have so much STUFF. Voluntary Simplicity is one system out
    there. A simpler life is so much easier. We happen to be low
    income--believe me, that makes it all so much easier! And for those
    who think the windmills are ugly, have you seen the other style,
    the spherical ones that I call dancers? They may be slightly less
    efficient, but they are so pretty, and they may be easier on my
    friends, the birds. We are happy to be part of the Mother Earth
    community. Cordial best regards to everyone.

  • Rob 11/25/2007 9:49:14 AM

    The writer is ridiculous when he states that wind turbines can keep
    oil in the ground. or prevent emissions. Even more ludicrous is his
    assertion that the blades on modern turbines turn slowly. The tips
    reach speeds over 200 mph and are killing thousands of birds and
    bats. Articles like this are wishful thinking, not researched
    journalism. I won't be reading Mother Earth again.

  • Rosa 3/7/2007 7:57:05 AM

    Charles Komanoff is two with nature. See the response to the
    original article in Orion at
    http://kirbymtn.blogspot.com/2006/09/charles-komanoff-is-two-with-nature.html

  • kent 3/6/2007 8:39:09 PM

    After extensive evaluation of the various alternative energy
    technologies, including those not yet available commercially, such
    as wave (both electrical and hydroelectric) and geothermal "hot
    rock" and heat pump, I have arrived at the conclusion that wind
    power is far and away the worst method for producing electricity. I
    laugh when this author remarks that wind turbines use large blades
    because of these various wind force principles, when it should be
    obvious to everyone that the reason one needs a gigantic blade is
    bacause wind is such a meager source of energy and an enormous
    amount of it needs be gathered to amount to anything. Those
    amounts, interestingly enough, are totally misrepresented by the
    exaggerated nameplate capacities stamped on the turbines. Wind is
    simply too inefficient a method of making electricity, as compared
    to all of the other technologies, thus is intrinsically expensive
    by itself and because of its unreliability, which basically
    requires that it be duplicated by a reliable source. Because wind
    power cannot be counted in the portfolio required for peak demand,
    additional demand will always require building more power plants.
    During peak demand, wind is virtually nonexistent in most regions.
    That has enormous implications that are ignored and avoided by wind
    advocates, who persist in cranking out bogus cost estimates that
    must have been calculated by a master of voodoo economics. Wind
    advocates continuously lie about the technology, its capabilities
    and its total unreliability. Just one sqaure mile of seapump wave
    machines, for example, has the capability of producing as much
    output as 3,020 wind turbines, and producing that power on demand,
    which means a value for their output at least twice that of the
    wind generated electricity, and is much cheaper, probably less than
    half as expensive. Such wave machines are extremely simple,
    reliable and cheap, with no internal electrical parts. Unlike the
    60 ton

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