Update: Mother's Compost Heat Experiment

Our Initial tests using compost heat to produce warm water were encouraging.

| May/June 1980

063 compost heater update - filling a bucket

Mother's "cellulose cylinder" compost heat pile at work . . . before a bacteria-chilling cold snap struck.


In March 1980 we described French farmer Jean Pain's techniques for producing hot water and heated air — and even methane gas — from massive and carefully constructed compost piles ("The Genius of Jean Pain"). We also reported the beginnings of our own experiments with using compost heat to warm water, and told how the initial test was — at that moment — yielding some exciting results. Since that time, MOTHER EARTH NEWS' researchers have had a chance to complete and learn from their early attempt at "organic water heating," and everyone here figured that — even though we've got further compost experiments planned — you'd want to hear about those "first round" results right away.

Here's what happened: our prototype "heater" consisted of a thoroughly saturated mound of wood chips and manure combined in a four-to-one ratio that also contained a spiraling length of 1" semi rigid plastic pipe (the conduit's inlet and outlet extended, of course, outside of the pile).

The organic heap was finished on December 14, 1979 . . . and only 12 days later, the temperature of the mound's core had climbed all the way to 120°F! As you can imagine, MOTHER EARTH NEWS' research staffers were quite delighted with the heater's impressive start.

The experimental brush-and-manure pile kept on cooking at a stable 120° right through January, but then on February 2nd — during the longest cold snap of the winter — the compost mound's temperature started a slow and irreversible decline. By the middle of that month, the pile was (for all practical heat-producing purposes) "dead."

Two Reasons

Why did our first compost heater peak at 120°, hold its temperature for 5 1/2 weeks, and then drop off . . . while Monsieur Pain's brush heaps often maintain temperatures as high as 140° for up to nine months? Well, according to Larry Hollar — MOTHER EARTH NEWS' resource manager and the fellow in charge of our mound making operation — there are two chief reasons for the difference in results.

"First off," says Larry, "you have to realize that Jean Pain's compost piles contain from 50 to 100 tons of water-soaked brush clippings, while our prototype mound weighed only around five tons. Such a difference in size means that M. Pain's heaps have a lot more decomposing material to provide heat than did ours, and even more important, that his mounds also have a lot more insulating mass protecting the core of the compost heap. Our smaller pile on the other hand could "bounce off" the chill of some occasional 15° nights in January without any difficulty, but after a solid week of below-freezing night and day temperatures. the all-pervasive cold finally seeped through the "walls" of our heater and permanently slowed its bacterial action.

"The other main factor working in M. Pain's favor is the size of his wood particles. We had to build our heap out of ordinary wood chips that were as large as a half-inch in thickness, and it's pretty likely that the bacteria which decompose such carbon matter — thereby creating the pile's heat — simply couldn't work their way into the hearts of the chunky pieces. Jean's wood bits, though, are only one-sixteenth of an inch thick (he designed a special shredder to produce the thin slivers) . . . and such skinny wood slices provide a great deal more surface area for those heat-making micro-organisms to act upon.

"Of course, the most important result of our test is the fact that it proved that compost piles really can generate usable heat! Any time you've got a mound that's maintaining a temperature of 100° or more, you can use water routed through its center to warm a bath or heat a dwelling . . . and for almost two months last winter, we did have a 'three-digit' cooker. So Jean Pain's concept is definitely feasible. Once we get the bugs out — by building larger piles and deciding how to make an effective wood shredder — we'll have a truly practical heat source!

The Heat Goes On

So MOTHER EARTH NEWS' first hands-on experience with Jean Pain's composting methods produced some encouraging results . . . along with a good bit of the concrete learning you can gain only by trying something for yourself. And — as you read this page — our unstoppable researchers are getting started on their next round of heat mound experiments. In fact, the Carolina composters plan to have a larger pile operating this summer . . . so all of you folks who come out to our seminars will have the opportunity to observe a "bacteria-powered" water heater for yourselves!  

8/16/2013 5:24:18 AM

hi 1)will I obtain the same results if I use a different compost ingredient and 2) how the compost size and shape is related to the quantity of heat generated. Thank you

6/9/2011 12:09:46 PM

Dear Sirs: Thinking back to my childhood, I do remember hauling Cow Manure from the barn in the spring time, barns were cleaned all winter except in certain places like where the caves were. This would build up to a coup;e of feet thick but the crap would be very hot and steamy ( stinks also ) It would also steam outside in the piles, I just thaught this was from fresh cow dung from the cows. I guess if we could wake up and ( Smell? )The roses, maybe we can lick the eco problem.Thank you Wilky

dairy goat


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