The Truth About Electric Car Safety

If you’ve been holding off on buying that nifty electric car because you’re worried about its safety, think again.
By Jim Motavalli
GUIDE TO GREEN CARS, Summer 2012
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Worried that an electric car might explode after a collision? In fact, after extensive crash testing like the side-impact test pictured here, the Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf were awarded five stars and high safety ratings for rollover protection and front, rear and side collisions.
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In November 2011, the extended-range electric Chevrolet Volt was beginning a modest sales climb when it was temporarily derailed by a report from Washington, D.C. A Volt had caught fire after a government crash test, which led to an official safety agency investigation. The fire occurred three weeks after the crash test, which damaged the battery, and could easily have been avoided if appropriate post-collision safety precautions had been followed.

According to Clarence Ditlow, executive director of the Center for Auto Safety, an electric car’s battery could potentially catch on fire if it heats to the point that it ignites flammable liquids near the battery. Draining fluids and removing gas tanks is common at junkyards and garages following real-life car accidents, but is not necessary in the case of gasoline-powered test crashes, because the testers use expensive, non-flammable Stoddard fuel, which poses no fire risk.

General Motors had actually developed procedures for draining and discarding the Volt’s battery pack following a crash, but according to company spokesman Greg Martin, GM hadn’t communicated them to the testing agency, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), at the time of the test. The Chevy Volt fire received a great deal of publicity, and raised a key question for potential buyers of electric cars: Are electric cars safe?

The public was suddenly unsure, especially after the Volt fire was hit by politically motivated attacks. “Move over, Solyndra,” wrote Greenwire, an environmental news service. “Conservatives opposed to the Obama administration’s spending on clean energy have a new whipping boy. The electric Chevrolet Volt is the new focus of angry conservative blog posts, testy congressional hearings and joking videos.” In December, Mitt Romney said the Volt is “an idea whose time has not come,” and the car was derided by some commentators as “Obama’s car.” The inconvenient truth here is that the Volt was launched in 2007 with George W. Bush in the White House, and the $7,500 federal tax credit that helps people buy it was also passed on Bush’s watch, in 2008. Even the first stages of the GM and Chrysler bailouts happened before Obama took office.

The facts surrounding the Volt fire are complex, and at least partly because of the sensationalist coverage, some people were left with the impression that the Volt has a record of exploding on impact, when in fact this has never occurred.

Volt sales took a hit, dropping to 603 in January from 1,529 in its peak month (December 2011) as of our press time. A survey of 3,800 Americans in December 2011 found a drop in interested “early adopters.” The percentage of respondents “very likely” to consider a Volt fell from 21.3 to 11.6 percent, and those “likely” to consider one dropped from 38.1 to 24.7 percent.

Yet NHTSA fully exonerated the Volt in late January following an investigation and a voluntary GM recall to strengthen the car’s battery protection. NHTSA found “no discernible defect trend,” and reported that it was not able to replicate the fire “either in full-scale vehicle testing or battery component testing.” They knew of no “real-world crashes that have resulted in a battery-related fire involving the Chevy Volt or any other electric vehicle.” (Read the Chevrolet Volt Battery Incident Overview Report for more information.)

Redundant Car Safety Systems

The truth is, manufacturers have gone to great lengths to ensure that their battery and plug-in hybrid cars are safe and have been equipped with numerous safeguards to avoid fire and exposing their occupants to high-voltage electricity. But there is no extensive paper trail on electric car safety simply because there haven’t been many electric cars on the road. According to Nancy Schwartz, an administrator at the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), there is no database of statistical information on electric car fires.

NFPA does maintain extensive records on car fires generally, and reported that between 2003 and 2007 there were an average of 287,000 such incidents every year, measured by those requiring fire department intervention. In each of the years studied, car fires killed approximately 480 people, injured 1,525, and caused $1.3 billion in property damage. Given the 246 million vehicles on the road in the United States, this translates into one car fire annually for every 1,000 vehicles — making auto fires a fairly familiar feature of the American landscape. “After all, it’s not called the internal-combustion engine for nothing,” wrote Bryan Walsh of Time in a blog post that concluded that electric cars might be safer than gas-only vehicles.

The risk of being shocked by touching your car or truck is also low in electric cars, because the electrical system “floats” in isolation from the chassis. Many electrical subsystems are designed to shut off if they detect a current path to the car’s chassis. Electric cars also have safety disconnects designed to cut power in the event of a collision, short circuit or other danger.

Safety devices such as these are one reason both the Volt and the all-electric Nissan Leaf received top ratings from NHTSA and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS).

According to Sebastian Blanco, lead blogger at the clean car website AutoblogGreen: “I don’t think EVs are any more inherently dangerous than gas vehicles. In fact, a battery pack is safer than a tank of gasoline, even if li-ion cells can still catch fire under certain unusual circumstances. Automakers will continue to make safety a priority, being careful to isolate the cells and the energy in them in the event of a crash. Hundreds of thousands of safe miles have been put onto plug-in vehicles, so people should be willing to trust them, recognizing, of course, that a motor vehicle is always potentially dangerous.”

Brian Wynne, president of the Electric Drive Transportation Association (EDTA), echoes Blanco. “I don’t think anyone educating themselves about these cars should have any concerns about their safety,” he says. “They go through the exact same safety tests as any other vehicles.”

Wynne characterized GM’s repair for the Volt as a redundant “belt-and-suspenders fix, an extremely appropriate response from the company.” He says the EDTA supported the NHTSA investigation, because the industry wanted to reconfirm the safety of electric cars for the public.

5 Stars for Electric Car Safety

Cars with plugs have received stellar safety ratings. The Volt and the Leaf both received five-star overall ratings from NHTSA and were awarded top safety ratings for front, rear, side and rollover protection from IIHS. (Learn more: Volt NHTSA ratings; Leaf NHTSA ratings; Volt IIHS ratings; Leaf IIHS ratings.)

NHTSA is trying to get the word out that its investigation is over and electric cars were acquitted. NHTSA administrator David Strickland says, “NHTSA continues to believe that electric vehicles show great promise as a safe and fuel-efficient option for American drivers. Based on the available data, NHTSA does not believe that Volts, or other electric vehicles, pose a greater risk of fire than gasoline-powered vehicles. In fact, all vehicles have some risk of fire in the event of a serious crash.”

Ditlow does not think the electric car’s reputation has been irreparably harmed by the investigation. He says the cars are now built to a high standard of crash-worthiness (unlike 1970s electrics such as the golf cart-based CitiCar), and many internal-combustion vehicles present a worse fire safety record than the Chevy Volt does. “Typically, in an electric car fire you have time to get out of the vehicle,” he says. In gasoline cars, fires can spread quickly and, Ditlow says if there’s an immediate explosion, your chances of getting out are extremely slim.

Ditlow faults both NHTSA and GM for not having policies in place to routinely drain fluids from its electric and plug-in hybrid cars following a crash test. Several other gas car crash tests that caused fuel to be spilled led to NHTSA investigations, but had similarly not resulted in government-ordered recalls.

Use Caution: Electric Car Safety Measures

Following the Volt fire incident, NHTSA issued common-sense guidelines for consumers whose cars have high-voltage batteries.

Always assume:

  • The battery and associated components are fully charged.
  • Exposed electric components, wires and high-voltage batteries present potential shock hazards.
  • Venting/off-gassing battery vapors are potentially toxic and flammable.
  • Physical damage to the vehicle or battery may result in immediate or delayed release of toxic and/or flammable gases that can cause fire.

Some similar precautions apply to internal-combustion cars — don’t smoke while filling your car; don’t run the engine in an enclosed space — but most Americans have internalized them by now. In fact, a gallon of gasoline has the explosive power of 30 sticks of dynamite, but it’s generally not perceived as a dangerous substance.

The Volt’s — and by extension, the electric car’s — reputation may take time to recover, but it’s probably not too far gone. On January 25, GM CEO Dan Akerson told the House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that the Volt is safe.

Also that day, John German, a former Chrysler engineer who is now senior fellow and program director at the International Council on Clean Transportation, told investigators that lithium-ion batteries, shared by cars and computers, are capable of developing both high temperature and “thermal runaway.” He pointed to the recall of nearly 6 million Sony laptops because of a fire hazard due to flawed battery design.

But, German says, “Cars are not computers. Every auto manufacturer has worked to develop lithium-ion chemistries that are much more abuse-tolerant, as well as more durable and reliable. At least with respect to fire risk, electric vehicles are far safer than gasoline-fueled vehicles.” He added that overall electric car safety is determined not just by cell chemistries, but also by the effectiveness of built-in cooling systems, internal-pack construction, cell isolation and external packaging of the battery pack.

Worries About Exposure to Electromagnetic Fields

Another potential concern — in both hybrids and electric battery cars — is exposure to electromagnetic fields (EMFs). Because the cars carry high-voltage electricity, they represent a potential risk similar to that posed by proximity to high-voltage power lines. But there’s no conclusive proof that EMFs are dangerous, and there is a welter of conflicting scientific studies.

Consumer Reports tested a number of cars for EMF levels in a 2010 test and found, surprisingly enough, the highest reading in a non-hybrid Chevrolet Cobalt: 30 milligauss (the measure of a magnetic field), more than double the reading in the Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid. Consumer Reports concluded that there is “no established threshold standard that says what an unhealthy dose might be, and no concrete, scientific proof that the sort of EMF produced by electric motors harms people in the first place. Taken together, the many studies of EMF radiation and human health are inconclusive.”

In 1999, the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (a division of the National Institutes of Health) reported to Congress that “the overall scientific evidence for human health risk from EMF exposure is weak. No consistent pattern of biological effects from exposure to EMF [has] emerged from laboratory studies with animals or with cells.”

Automakers take precautions to isolate drivers and passengers from EMF radiation and measure exposure with professional gauss meters that can cost thousands of dollars. Honda spokesperson Chris Martin says the company’s tests of its hybrid cars had results that were well below the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection standard. He cautioned against consumers taking matters into their own hands through the use of inexpensive hand-held scanners to test for EMFs. “People have a valid concern, but they’re measuring radiation using the wrong devices,” he says.

Nevertheless, crafty entrepreneurs are eager to sell concerned motorists such devices as the $15.50 “Crystal Catalyst Bead,” worn as a necklace for “personal EMF protection and continuous energy enhancement.” The much pricier “Nova Scalar Resonator Ankle Bracelet” ($349) is for “primary and wireless EMF protection.” These devices are about as effective as a CD hung from the rearview mirror to deter police radar.

An approach with more scientific validity is to install shielding on locations of the car close to EMF sources. The shielding is similar to that used to protect patients from fields generated by MRI machines. It’s an expensive option, however, and has not been proven necessary in automotive applications.

First Responders

Electric cars will compile a much better safety record if emergency personnel know how best to keep them safe after an accident. NFPA launched a partnership with GM and OnStar to train first responders in responding to incidents involving the Volt in 2010, before the car was actually on the ground. The program includes a series of videos and course material, and includes an extraction demonstration using an actual Volt. Key points covered are powering down the 360-volt system (cables to be cut are clearly marked with first-responder tags, and there is also a manual service disconnect device), fighting a battery fire with water and getting people safely out of the car.

At the Firehouse Expo 2011 electric car safety symposium in Baltimore, Ron Moore, a Texas-based firefighter and extrication expert, told an audience of first responders that the Volt has two electrical systems, only one of which carries high voltage, and that both must be disconnected following a crash. A professional should also drain the car’s fluids, including its battery coolant. Because the Volt and Leaf battery packs are located underneath the car, “cribbing” (stabilizing a post-accident car with wooden blocks) can cause damage and is not recommended, he said.

Made Safe the First Time

The Volt fire damaged the car’s reputation and that of all battery-powered vehicles, but in fact the cars have an unblemished safety record when proper procedures are followed. The good news is that all of the plug-in cars on the market today have received top marks from both government and independent testing agencies. “Safety first” is more than a slogan when it comes to electric car engineering, and NHTSA has publicly recognized that. When it closed the case on the Volt fire, the agency concluded that it “does not believe that Chevy Volts or other electric vehicles pose a greater risk of fire than gasoline-powered vehicles.”


Jim Motavalli is a contributor to the New York Times, NPR’s Car Talk and Mother Nature Network. He is author of High Voltage: The Fast Track to Plug in the Auto Industry. 


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Paul Grover
12/9/2012 6:33:17 AM
I am in agreement with alot of the posters here in that this seems to be more of a radical leftist article than some real info about the new electric vehicles. "Bush did this", and "you're a greedy oil using war monger". Wel I have a couple of issues with the Chevy Volt and Nissan Leaf, etc.. Sure I wouldlike a $7500 tax credit, but I have already paid for it through my taxes, so getting a little back would be nice for a change. But who he hell can afford $52,000 for a freekin' commuter car nowadays?! (Chevy Volt ASP) How long does it take to recoup my investment so that I am saving money over a regular car? (short answer.... a loooooong time). And I am not really a fan of saying a car is safe by giving it a 5 star crash rating... Ever heard of the "Smart Car"? There is no way I want to be hit by any car bigger than me (I think ALL cars are bigger than a Smart), and the Smart car has a 5 star impact rating... Things that make you go "Hmmmmm". By the way... I would love to own, or build an electric vehicle. But I don't like anyones else who uses their "agenda" to slap it in my face. Especially when it is not based on facts. (anyone else notice the 'inconvienent truth' quote in the article to try and motivate the global warming fanatics?) I really do know my actual carbon footprint... do you?

John Rockhold
7/31/2012 8:13:05 PM
Tom: check out the article below for more on the point you've raised. http://www.motherearthnews.com/green-transportation/electric-cars-zm0z11zsto.aspx

Robert Perry
4/19/2012 4:11:32 PM
For more information about the carbon footprint of electrical cars, may I suggest that one goggle: How Green Are Electric Cars? Depends on Where You Plug In. This article appeared in many publications, including The New York Times. As one should be aware that most articles appearing in the popular press are suspect, it does offer a perspective. (I have found that even peer reviewed journal articles are also suspect.) This article also points out that electric cars are not all that green, and they often have a greater carbon footprint than gasoline engines. With warm regards, RT Perry

Tom Saxton
4/18/2012 5:47:02 AM
Just like electricity comes from somewhere, gasoline doesn't just magically appear at your local gas station. People like to point out that we need to consider the upstream costs of electricity, but gasoline has the same issue. Refining a gallon of gas requires about 6.5 kWh of energy, which is about the same amount of energy that an electric vehicle uses to drive 20 miles, about how far the average car in the US drives by burning that gallon of gas.

Tom Saxton
4/18/2012 5:39:55 AM
When thinking about the possibility of being in a car accident, I'm much more comfortable having a battery pack that turns into a bunch of little batteries in an accident than a gas tank that turns into a fireball. How can anyone park 20 gallons of flammable/explosive gas in their garage next to their furnace or water heater pilot light and worry about a battery pack? We've driven our Leaf 3,168 miles on about $98 worth of electricity, local energy supporting local jobs instead of foreign government that sponsor terrorism.

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:37:35 PM
Robert, you hit is directly on the head!!! As the actual number prove out, over and over again!

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:35:53 PM
There has never been a single example of tax credits doing anything except lead us, as a country, down a blind path! Look at ethanol, solar and windpower, to see how benificial it has been! Every study shows it not only has not helped, it has spent large sums of money with little to nothing to show for it. But then everything is Bush's fault isn't it?? You want a brighter future, get rid of Obama!

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:30:31 PM
So you just post the same thing over and over again? Now that is original!!!

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:29:18 PM
Not much of a farm is this is your primary farm vehicle. You cannot get a bale of hay into it, and they will not tow a trailer! I suspect much more talk, than actual action here!

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:27:36 PM
Good luck on the battery upgrade! And as for life of the battery, really good luck. Even Nissan is not postulating battery life near that good! You do know they do not make a replacement battery for that car don't you? Also, you want to talk about being supported by others!! What do you think is used to make the electricity???? Who is giving you a huge tax credit??? But it is all free in your mind, isn't it???

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:22:28 PM
The couple of Leafs I have followed were not very fast, could not go very far and zippy is just a term used by people with no understanding about how much they are holding up traffic most of the time.

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:21:05 PM
So you have a windmill outside of your garage you are using for power?! Get a clue, your car runs on coal, nuclear, hydro or natural gas!

ABBEY BEND
4/17/2012 5:19:09 PM
Divaqs, Obviously you have no understanding about an electric engine. Of course they produce waste heat and noise, it may not be as much as an internal combustion engine, but they still do! As for efficiency of an electric motor versus and internal combustion engine, there are great number of losses involved with an electric motor, before the energy even gets to the batteries of the automobile, which for some reason are all forgotten about when talking about an electric motored automobile. When all of the numbers are put into play, battery powered vehicles never do as well in total pollution/efficiency as a well designed internal combustion engine does. You need to have some actual knowledge and understanding of "simple physics"!

Divaqs
4/15/2012 5:23:23 PM
Robert, your information is really off. Have you ever considered how un-green the production of gasoline is? Drilling and pumping for oil releases greenhouse gases, refining the oil consumes a huge amount of energy, and defending the oil takes not only energy but blood. Also, the efficiency of a electric engine is considerably higher than a gas engine... as can be compared in simple physic, in that electric engines don't produce waste heat or noise.

Robert Perry
4/15/2012 4:10:23 AM
I do have a comment concerning electrical cars. Articles seem to never point out that the electricity needed to charge the batteries has to be generated somewhere. The efficiency of the electrical power plants is about 30 percent, and there are line loses. This suggests that electrical cars have a greater carbon footprint and, overall, are less efficient than gasoline powered engines. I think one does a disservice to the public by not noting this in the literature. Electric cars are not all that green. With warm regards, R.T. Perry

Cindy Bova
4/14/2012 5:10:39 PM
Our Leaf was purchased 8 months ago and we Love it! Best car we ever purchased! Getting off foriegn oil and switching to renewables is a good thing! Here's a thought for all the negative responses/comments; HOW MUCH AMERICAN BLOOD ARE YOU WILLING TO TRADE FOR FORIEGN OIL? and/or HOW MANY MORE BP-OIL SPILLS WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND? Think about it......

Cindy Bova
4/14/2012 5:00:19 PM
Our Leaf was purchased 8 months ago and we Love it! Best car we ever purchased! Getting off foriegn oil and switching to renewables is a good thing! Here's a thought for all the negative responses/comments; HOW MUCH AMERICAN BLOOD ARE YOU WILLING TO TRADE FOR FORIEGN OIL? and/or HOW MANY MORE BP-OIL SPILLS WILL CHANGE YOUR MIND? Think about it......

Matt Griscom
4/14/2012 1:59:50 PM
My Nissan Leaf seems ultra-modern now and is usually the zippiest car on the road, but in 10 years I expect that there will be some changes to public perception: gas-powered cars will still be less expensive to buy, but will be generally seen as noisy, dirty, slow, complicated, and prone to breaking down. Think about that the next time the USA is dropping bombs overseas. This is how I see it now, but I already know because I drive one.

Matt Griscom
4/14/2012 1:47:47 PM
I own and drive a Nissan Leaf, and it has almost 12,000 miles on it. I LOVE my electric car! It's fast, simple, quiet, very easy and fun to drive. Maintenance is trivial, because it's so simple. I've never been stranded and never gone out of my way to charge my car. It saves me time and money in cost of ownership. This is a very important part of the future of transportation! I wish this transition of transportation away from gas transportation didn't require a government subsidy, but it does because gasoline is hugely subsidized by taxpayers to keep the cost down at the pump. Think $2,000,000,000,000 for Bush's Iraq war, think of the >100,000 people who died there, and realize that this is just one example of the many taxpayer subsidies and murderous foreign policy issues around keeping the oil flowing to the USA. Gas is extremely dirty and expensive long before it gets to the pump. The Bush $7500 tax credit for electric car is a smart thing for the USA, because it's needed to get the country moving towards a brighter, better future.

Divaqs
4/14/2012 6:30:55 AM
After more than 11 months of ownership and over 17000 miles driven in my Nissan LEAF, I am still VERY pleased with my choice. Not only have my electric bills increased only about $35/month to fuel my car (from primarily hydro-electric power), but I have NOT had to worry about oil changes, belts wearing out, filters, etc. The car is fun to drive and has served as our primary family vehicle. It is the car all the drivers in my family want to drive.

Divaqs
4/14/2012 6:25:51 AM
As experiences is demonstrating to me, I am saving at least $2000/year by not having to pay for expensive gas, oil changes, radiator flushes, engine cleanings, belt replacements, spark plugs, etc. By my calculations, I am spending only about 2 cents per mile for electricity, rather than the 20+ cents per mile I am spending in gas for our other cars. At this rate, I estimate that I will have saved more money than I spent for my LEAF after about 10-11 years... with the car essentially paying for itself, though that wasn't my object or goal, since I was already in the market for a new car. If I would have bought a gas car, there would have been no such savings, just depreciation. 10 years down the road, rather than having to get a transmission or dirty gas engine being rebuilt, I will be due for a battery upgrade... since at that time my old battery is estimated to be capable of about 80% of peak capacity. After 15000 miles driven, there was still no sign of degradation in capacity when I had it checked. Electric engines are expected to last considerably longer than gas engines, so with a battery upgrade I am expecting that my LEAF will be in use longer than any gas car would have, which means even more savings, perhaps a whole another car's value of savings.

ABBEY BEND
4/14/2012 12:45:22 AM
Almost forgot, my car does not get that great of mileage per gallon, yet because of how much I drive a year, it would still take me 40 years to spend the same amount as either of these cars cost. With my vehicle I can haul myself, dogs, friends and wife all the the same time, or a lot of stuff and wife and dogs at the same time. Neither of these are even close to being able to do the same thing!!!!

ABBEY BEND
4/14/2012 12:42:07 AM
Was this piece written by a White House staffer??? Both of these cars are stupid to buy for one simple reason, no resale value! Both are sold with an estimated battery life of around 7 years, then guess what, no replacement battery available! The reason is simple, cost of battery is more than the value of car. So how are these crappy little cars Green? My over 200,000+ mile car is still running well, 17 years after it left the factory, and likely will run well for another 10 years, based on lasting 300,000 miles and how much I drive it a year. Parts are cheap and easy to get, will be lots of good recyclables in it when it dies too, unlike these things! Also, only one is an electric car, having a gasoline engine in the front, fuel tank in the back, does not sound like an electric car to me, sounds more like a kind of lame, extremely expensive Prius! At $250,000 dollars apiece, when all the subsidies are added in, it is a truly stupid car to be palming off on the taxpayers! Put the Volt on the scrap piles now, where it belongs!!

JULIE CASEY
4/13/2012 6:03:24 PM
Yes, it seems that Mother Earth News has lost touch with its independent-minded readers. We enjoy the articles about independent living, but quit trying to shove your false political agenda down our throats!

SHAWN HENRY
4/13/2012 5:03:15 PM
Amen.

SHAWN HENRY
4/13/2012 5:02:30 PM
There is no doubt Mother Earth Mag is Left wing Global Warming crazy. These cars cost more to buy and own than a small compact car that runs on gas or diesl. You only get what 25 miles to a charge on the Volt, Then you got to have a charging station installed. I bought a Smart car and now i'm spending more money a year to keep it on the road with the $400 oil changes and break downs. Buying the F250 truck i wanted would been cheeper. This Government wants to push these products on us because they got pockets involved.

Joe Hafner
4/13/2012 1:03:08 PM
Yeah uh huh, too bad the white house is basically paying people to buy them through subsidies. There were more pickup trucks sold in my county even with the high gas prices than there were volts sold nationwide. MEN is such a political shill nowadays it isnt even funny.








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