The Plowboy Interview

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SNYDER: To give you an example of artificial versus natural boundaries. there are the political borders of the states of California, Washington, and Oregon, say. In that same region, though, there are also-among others-the natural boundaries established by the range of Douglas fir. This type of tree grows from somewhere just around Haines, Alaska, down the coast and along the crest of the Cascades and the Sierra as far as Big Sur ...and extend east to the crest of the Sierra Nevada. It's found around where I live, but not over on the other side into the Great Basin.

From Big Sur north to Haines, and from the crest of the Sierra and the Cascades to the Pacific Ocean ...the range of Douglas fir is almost exactly precise definition of what my natural nation would be. The agriculture and forestry of the region within which Douglas fir grows are defined by the amount of rainfall and the temperatures found in that zone. South of the Douglas fir range you find a really hot and much drier, truly Mediterranean cli mate, which has different agricultural needs. And so you could take, say, the Douglas fir-because it's dependent upon that rainfall and those temperatures-as the signature of this natural nation. And what we already know about Douglas fir tells us nearly everything else about the locale ...including what kind of farming we should do, what kind of raincoats we should wear, what boots will be the best to wear, and even what our poetry should be like. [Laughter] That's the way those things work, you know.

I felt this on my last trip up to Alaska, when I drove from Anchorage up around the basin of the Copper River and over into Canada and came down through the Yukon. I turned off at Haines Junctioh and went over Haines Summit-all of that being white spruce taiga, still frozen in-and dropped down then to the Pacific, to Haines, Alaska, which is on the water. And suddenly I was in the green trees, the skunk cabbage was beginning to come out, the eagles had already left ...and it was spring, where 40 miles back up the road up in the taiga I'd been in the winter of the Yukon. I knew I was back in my country, seeing Douglas fir. All of the terms suddenly changed. The plants became plants I know.

That's a bioregional boundary. I could feel it. And if you look at the maps in Kroeber's book Cultural and Natural Areas of Native North America, you'll find (this is exactly what he does in that book, using a series of overlay maps), that the natural regions of North America and its native cultural regions are almost identical.

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