Arthur Shaw on Copionics

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Plowboy: Does Copionics require violence or revolution?

AS: For some of us, angry and committed to deep change, there may be at first some disappointment. For Copionics requires no violence, no expropriation. Copionics is deep change. The realization of sufficiency can be effected and expressed and accomplished with no harm to any group or any class.

Plowboy: Wouldn't this radically change our society though? I mean, there's some guy across the street who must be watching his color television.and dreaming of his freshly polished Cadillac. Would he have to worry - I mean would he say, "I can't let this happen, what about my TV and Cadillac?"

AS: Well, the super-abundance of our world - of our life - the amazing sufficiency expressed in the comprehension that there is limitless energy flowing into our world, puts the Cadillac in an appropriate perspective. No one need want more than that . . . the lives of us all would be full and fulfilled.

You ask how all this will change our lives? I think the expression of free-flow that man will see and enjoy will create for him the realization that he can enlarge himself in terms of feeling, in terms of idea; in terms of expression. In matters that have real meaning . . .

Plowboy: We're so restricted . . .

AS: Yes. Plowboy: We should stop listening to all the ideas that have been put down, that say, "Do it this way." We're asking - and you're asking - for what appears to be a human revolution.

AS: Yes, I think that is the fundamental thing. If we break through this basic constraint which is something we've been saddled with - the acceptance of scarcity - I think the implications will free us in every way. And I think the students, the young people, sense this - realize this, feel this - and that Copionics provides them with a program, a tangible device to show this to all people, to show this to their parents, to show this to the businessman, to show this to the technician, to show it to the world.

Plowboy: You mentioned college students growing more aware of Copionics. What has been happening on college campuses with it?

AS: At one campus, Queens College, an Abundance Club has been started with the idea that the information - the facts that "we have it made" - can be told at the school level, as well as at all other levels of life.

You must remember that we are attempting to make pragmatic the facts of availability. Just to express it might mean continuation of our present affairs. What can we do? You know we're restrained by the Law of International Balance of Payments: Capital formation . . . growth for the Have countries, while the Have-Not countries become increasingly Have-Not.

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